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Re: Three PF questions by Jerry Friedman
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C. Kunin noted that the "Edsel Ford lines quoted by Kinbote are reminiscent of the opening of the famous Fitzgerald translation of The Rubaiyat. There are at least two versions, though, one with and without the cock."
My poems follow the arrangement of the fourth edition and I did find where a verse in which "a cock crew" but saw no "shaking fire" nor "morning and misty mows."
If we omit the cock (!!) what shall we encounter? Could Carolyn quote the lines she has in mind?
( besides, what can we make out of "empires of rhyme, Indies of calculus" in the context of Persian Khayyám - inspite of his having been a poet and an expert mathematician) ?
The Shade Lines 602/605 being discussed are: "Empires of rhyme, Indies of calculus;/ Listen to distant cocks crow, and discern/ Upon the rough gray wall a rare wall fern..." and Kinbote´s quotes of Edsel Ford's poem are: "And often when the cock crew, shaking fire/ Out of the morning and the misty mow"...
We know FitzGerald was not a faithful translator: he was unfamiliar with Persian and he made substantious alterations to Khayyám's original.
Would there be an allusion to the distorted relation bt. Kinbote's renderings and Shade's original poem?
It's an interesting conjecture. Soon Kinbote will write about America's "stars and stripes" and mention Prof. "Starover" Blue - an astronomer, just like Khayyám.
Kinbote also dwells on King Charles and his father's passion for airplanes and machines. Would his interest somhow indicate Henry Ford's machines?
Data on Edsel inform that he was "more fascinated by the shapes of automobiles than by their inner workings." Apparently E.Ford died of nervous tension and of complications following a stomach ailment and one of the causes might have been the troubled relationship with his tyrannical father. According to information gleaned on the net, Edsel was "manipulated, harassed,tormented and humiliated" by Henry Ford who fired his un-Indian empire's accountants and who succintly defined History as... "bunk"?
Jansy
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My poems follow the arrangement of the fourth edition and I did find where a verse in which "a cock crew" but saw no "shaking fire" nor "morning and misty mows."
If we omit the cock (!!) what shall we encounter? Could Carolyn quote the lines she has in mind?
( besides, what can we make out of "empires of rhyme, Indies of calculus" in the context of Persian Khayyám - inspite of his having been a poet and an expert mathematician) ?
The Shade Lines 602/605 being discussed are: "Empires of rhyme, Indies of calculus;/ Listen to distant cocks crow, and discern/ Upon the rough gray wall a rare wall fern..." and Kinbote´s quotes of Edsel Ford's poem are: "And often when the cock crew, shaking fire/ Out of the morning and the misty mow"...
We know FitzGerald was not a faithful translator: he was unfamiliar with Persian and he made substantious alterations to Khayyám's original.
Would there be an allusion to the distorted relation bt. Kinbote's renderings and Shade's original poem?
It's an interesting conjecture. Soon Kinbote will write about America's "stars and stripes" and mention Prof. "Starover" Blue - an astronomer, just like Khayyám.
Kinbote also dwells on King Charles and his father's passion for airplanes and machines. Would his interest somhow indicate Henry Ford's machines?
Data on Edsel inform that he was "more fascinated by the shapes of automobiles than by their inner workings." Apparently E.Ford died of nervous tension and of complications following a stomach ailment and one of the causes might have been the troubled relationship with his tyrannical father. According to information gleaned on the net, Edsel was "manipulated, harassed,tormented and humiliated" by Henry Ford who fired his un-Indian empire's accountants and who succintly defined History as... "bunk"?
Jansy
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