NABOKV-L post 0023217, Tue, 7 Aug 2012 18:44:05 -0700

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more from the archives re nikto b'
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Found this - have tried to straighten out message from CHW - he was
always an interesting contributor - Charles ... can't recall further,
but his knowledge of things Scandanavian was impressive. V Fet, as
always, is clear as glass, or a bell, or a glass bell, or a bell
curve, or ... stop me before I write a poem or something.
Carolyn

>>>>>CHW also mentioned "nikto b", which the Russian speakers
>>>>>have ruled out. I think. But I'd like to clarify this
>>>>>last detail: if someone asks "Who is Botkin?", is "Nikto
>>>>> b" an absolutely unidiomatic answer?

Yes, it is absolutely unidiomatic combination and has to be ruled out.

If to "Who is Botkin?" one wants to say "nobody", the answer is "Nikto";
full answer is "Botkin is nobody", or "Botkin - nikto" [the verb is
omitted].

Russian "b" is just an abbreviated particle "by" (like in "Nikto b[y] ne
podumal", "nobody would have thought") but "nikto b" does not have any
independent meaning.

I brought it up but only as a possible palindrome with first name
"Nikto" = "Nikto Botkin" or "Nikto B." (B also being, naturally,
Cyrillic "V" for Vseslav or Vladimir).

There is also a traditional K/Ch interplay between down-to-earth pair
"Nikto" (nobody)/"Nichto" (nothing), versus more elevated poetic "Nekto"
(someone)/"Nechto" (something).

Victor Fet

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