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From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
>
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> Dear Kenny Glenn
> Thank you for the insight. I am in complete agreement with the reasons you
> gave for the bio section being relavent, however I still feel that its
> lenghth is unwarrented. It is true that I know nothing of Russian history
> prior to the last century (in which case I guess it would be Soviet
history)
> and that perhaps that knowledge would be useful. I still feel however,
that
> without the entire text included one would still get an appreciation of
> Fyodor growth as an artist simply from the critics' remarks. But it
doesn't
> matter I was just curious what others felt about the matter.
> Dane Gill
>
>
> >From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >Subject: Fw: The Gift ch4
> >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:18:43 -0800
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kenny, Glenn" <gkenny@hfmus.com>
> >To: "'D. Barton Johnson '" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: The Gift ch4
> >
> >
> > > Even WITHOUT familiarity w/ the history of Russian lit, or the history
> >of
> > > Russia, for that matter-I myself had very little of either when I made
> >my
> > > first foray into "DAR" ("The Gift")-the significance of Fyodor's
> >"Chnsky"
> > > biography is not just that it's the work with which he finds his own
> > > voice-it's the work with which, if I may be excused for the vulgarity,
> >he
> > > really finds his own balls, where he faces up to the fact that he has
no
> > > choice but to write and speak fearlessly from his own convictions
> >regardless
> > > of the "friends" and connections it loses him; regardless of how it
goes
> > > against social convention or conventional wisdom. It is the first
> >genuine
> > > flowering of Fyodor's genius, and that is why it occupies the place of
> >honor
> > > it has in the novel. And without having written it, he and Zina could
> >not
> > > have earned the right to walk into the sunset (and the gorgeous,
hidden
> > > Puskinian ode) of the novel's finale. It is also, of course, a
> >compelling,
> > > witty and illuminating piece of writing in its own right.
> > >
> > > GK
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: D. Barton Johnson
> > > To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> > > Sent: 11/11/03 10:02 PM
> > > Subject: Fw: The Gift ch4
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (12
> > > lines) ------------------
> > > > Greetings
> > > > This is a pretty straight forward question, but I have a feeling
that
> > > the
> > > > answer I get won't be straight forward. I don't "get" ch.4. Why is
it
> > > there?
> > > > I find it really disturbs the novel's flow and it really confuses
> > > the
> > > hell
> > > > out of me. Fyodor's other works are mentioned and bits are
> > > transcribed,
> > > but
> > > > his entire bio of Chnsky is produced. Why?
> > > > Dane Gill
> > > >
> > > EDNOTE. You really need familiarity with the history of Russian lit to
> > > "get" the central role of the Chernyshevsky chapter, author of one
of
> >the worst and
> > > most influential novels ever written-- CHTO DELAT'(What is to be
Done?)
> >It
> > > set in concrete (after 1925) the model for Socialist Realism which
> >effectively
> > > killed Russian lit until recent decades. Nabokov and his hero Fyodor
> > > directed their lives to reversing that dismal trend.
>
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From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
>
> ----------------- Message requiring your approval (89
lines) ------------------
> Dear Kenny Glenn
> Thank you for the insight. I am in complete agreement with the reasons you
> gave for the bio section being relavent, however I still feel that its
> lenghth is unwarrented. It is true that I know nothing of Russian history
> prior to the last century (in which case I guess it would be Soviet
history)
> and that perhaps that knowledge would be useful. I still feel however,
that
> without the entire text included one would still get an appreciation of
> Fyodor growth as an artist simply from the critics' remarks. But it
doesn't
> matter I was just curious what others felt about the matter.
> Dane Gill
>
>
> >From: "D. Barton Johnson" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Reply-To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
> >To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> >Subject: Fw: The Gift ch4
> >Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:18:43 -0800
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kenny, Glenn" <gkenny@hfmus.com>
> >To: "'D. Barton Johnson '" <chtodel@cox.net>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:00 PM
> >Subject: RE: The Gift ch4
> >
> >
> > > Even WITHOUT familiarity w/ the history of Russian lit, or the history
> >of
> > > Russia, for that matter-I myself had very little of either when I made
> >my
> > > first foray into "DAR" ("The Gift")-the significance of Fyodor's
> >"Chnsky"
> > > biography is not just that it's the work with which he finds his own
> > > voice-it's the work with which, if I may be excused for the vulgarity,
> >he
> > > really finds his own balls, where he faces up to the fact that he has
no
> > > choice but to write and speak fearlessly from his own convictions
> >regardless
> > > of the "friends" and connections it loses him; regardless of how it
goes
> > > against social convention or conventional wisdom. It is the first
> >genuine
> > > flowering of Fyodor's genius, and that is why it occupies the place of
> >honor
> > > it has in the novel. And without having written it, he and Zina could
> >not
> > > have earned the right to walk into the sunset (and the gorgeous,
hidden
> > > Puskinian ode) of the novel's finale. It is also, of course, a
> >compelling,
> > > witty and illuminating piece of writing in its own right.
> > >
> > > GK
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: D. Barton Johnson
> > > To: NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU
> > > Sent: 11/11/03 10:02 PM
> > > Subject: Fw: The Gift ch4
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Dane Gill" <pennyparkerpark@hotmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > ----------------- Message requiring your approval (12
> > > lines) ------------------
> > > > Greetings
> > > > This is a pretty straight forward question, but I have a feeling
that
> > > the
> > > > answer I get won't be straight forward. I don't "get" ch.4. Why is
it
> > > there?
> > > > I find it really disturbs the novel's flow and it really confuses
> > > the
> > > hell
> > > > out of me. Fyodor's other works are mentioned and bits are
> > > transcribed,
> > > but
> > > > his entire bio of Chnsky is produced. Why?
> > > > Dane Gill
> > > >
> > > EDNOTE. You really need familiarity with the history of Russian lit to
> > > "get" the central role of the Chernyshevsky chapter, author of one
of
> >the worst and
> > > most influential novels ever written-- CHTO DELAT'(What is to be
Done?)
> >It
> > > set in concrete (after 1925) the model for Socialist Realism which
> >effectively
> > > killed Russian lit until recent decades. Nabokov and his hero Fyodor
> > > directed their lives to reversing that dismal trend.
>
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