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Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:12:43 -0300
From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
Reply-To: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
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Dear List and ... Who?
The answers were placed among my own and it became difficult to distinguish
what was originally written. It even appears that I was the one that signed
the part that mentions Don´s "Worlds in Regression" ( a fundamental text
any way! )
Dark-blue usually appears in connection to Van´s ancestors, that´s why I
thought you might be speaking about that. The homeric "purpureum" might not
necessarily refer to a "wine-red sea" but to the absence of a word for
blue.
Ada offers us lots of strange threads but there are fixed points, too.
That´s why I thought the barometer associated with time and departures
seemed to be an interesting "reference" because it might establish new
links to explore. References are necessary unless we get led astray by all
the traps VN lays...
Jansy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald B. Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu>
To: <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Fwd: Greece, Argus and Ulysses J-4 May
--- "Donald B. Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Forwarded message from jansy@aetern.us -----
> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:19:27 -0300
> From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
> Reply-To: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
> Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: Greece, Argus and Ulysses J-4 May
> To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum
>
> Hello, Jerry
>
> I had forgotten about the other Arguses, thank you. Still, I think that
> the last
> reference that brings up Greek yachts, fidelity and "seeing off/coming
> back"
> must refer to Ulysses and his dog ( and to the car).
Oh, definitely. But why would a car be called "Argus"?
> I tried to see if there was anything else with yachts or Yaks and had
> another
> thrilling surprise. There were two references in "Ada" that mentioned
> Greeks
> and Yaks and described a kind of barometer ( The cartesian diver,
> usually
> floating in a glass tube and a wooden-barometer in the other that
> informs about
> rainy or sunny weather).
> A third barometer appeared ( it registered the hours!) but not as close
> to the
> Yaks as the other ones but VN brought again the expression "saw off"...
>
> Google offered me an address refering to "YAK" but it can only be a
> coincidental find! There is a British company named "Yak" that offers
> yachting
> equipment, including "boyancy aids". For the fun of it, I´ll copy their
> address:
> YAK: Producers of marine safety equipment, lifejackets and buoyancy
> aids, and
> immersion suits in Great Britain. www.crewsaver.co.uk/
Since the world is full of connections of this kind, I wonder
how one can decide which of the connections in Nabokov are
important. Unless one can thrill to all of them, of course, which
may be the point.
...
> (Purpur?) /Dark-blue is a color associated with Van´s ancestors.
> Dark-blue is
> also a dream train that goes from London to the Cape.
When I mentioned "wine-dark", I was thinking of a conversation
between Alexey Sklyarenko and Brian Boyd a couple years ago that
I blundered into, in which "dark blue" was connected with the ocean
or sea in _Ada_.. Here's one of Prof. Boyd's postings:
<http://listserv.ucsb.edu/lsv-cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0211&L=nabokv-l&P=R12290>.
Maybe all these coincidences are signs that I finally need to read
_Worlds in Regression_.
> Jansy
...
Yahoo! Mail
Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:
http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
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Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:12:43 -0300
From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
Reply-To: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
---------------- Message requiring your approval (102 lines) ------------------
Dear List and ... Who?
The answers were placed among my own and it became difficult to distinguish
what was originally written. It even appears that I was the one that signed
the part that mentions Don´s "Worlds in Regression" ( a fundamental text
any way! )
Dark-blue usually appears in connection to Van´s ancestors, that´s why I
thought you might be speaking about that. The homeric "purpureum" might not
necessarily refer to a "wine-red sea" but to the absence of a word for
blue.
Ada offers us lots of strange threads but there are fixed points, too.
That´s why I thought the barometer associated with time and departures
seemed to be an interesting "reference" because it might establish new
links to explore. References are necessary unless we get led astray by all
the traps VN lays...
Jansy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald B. Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu>
To: <NABOKV-L@LISTSERV.UCSB.EDU>
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Fwd: Greece, Argus and Ulysses J-4 May
--- "Donald B. Johnson" <chtodel@gss.ucsb.edu> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Forwarded message from jansy@aetern.us -----
> Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 08:19:27 -0300
> From: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
> Reply-To: Jansy Berndt de Souza Mello <jansy@aetern.us>
> Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: Greece, Argus and Ulysses J-4 May
> To: Vladimir Nabokov Forum
>
> Hello, Jerry
>
> I had forgotten about the other Arguses, thank you. Still, I think that
> the last
> reference that brings up Greek yachts, fidelity and "seeing off/coming
> back"
> must refer to Ulysses and his dog ( and to the car).
Oh, definitely. But why would a car be called "Argus"?
> I tried to see if there was anything else with yachts or Yaks and had
> another
> thrilling surprise. There were two references in "Ada" that mentioned
> Greeks
> and Yaks and described a kind of barometer ( The cartesian diver,
> usually
> floating in a glass tube and a wooden-barometer in the other that
> informs about
> rainy or sunny weather).
> A third barometer appeared ( it registered the hours!) but not as close
> to the
> Yaks as the other ones but VN brought again the expression "saw off"...
>
> Google offered me an address refering to "YAK" but it can only be a
> coincidental find! There is a British company named "Yak" that offers
> yachting
> equipment, including "boyancy aids". For the fun of it, I´ll copy their
> address:
> YAK: Producers of marine safety equipment, lifejackets and buoyancy
> aids, and
> immersion suits in Great Britain. www.crewsaver.co.uk/
Since the world is full of connections of this kind, I wonder
how one can decide which of the connections in Nabokov are
important. Unless one can thrill to all of them, of course, which
may be the point.
...
> (Purpur?) /Dark-blue is a color associated with Van´s ancestors.
> Dark-blue is
> also a dream train that goes from London to the Cape.
When I mentioned "wine-dark", I was thinking of a conversation
between Alexey Sklyarenko and Brian Boyd a couple years ago that
I blundered into, in which "dark blue" was connected with the ocean
or sea in _Ada_.. Here's one of Prof. Boyd's postings:
<http://listserv.ucsb.edu/lsv-cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0211&L=nabokv-l&P=R12290>.
Maybe all these coincidences are signs that I finally need to read
_Worlds in Regression_.
> Jansy
...
Yahoo! Mail
Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour:
http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html
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