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Re: pardonner/ perdonner, and chess
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[EDNOTE. Both chess and onomatopoeia (obscene or otherwise) can
definitely be related to VN, so perhaps anyone wishing to continue
either thread could do so by keepng VN in the loop it forms. Thanks! -
- SES.]
I hope our editors will allow just a few more words on two
threadlets that aren't particularly VN-related:
Jansy: I like your idea, but I don't think there's any
connection between the Greek verb poieo (to make or do) and
perdomai; it doesn't fit any of the regular etymological
patterns. (I suspect though that both perdomai and bdeo may
have been onomatopoeic in origin.) I checked Jeffery
Henderson's The Maculate Muse: Obscene Language in Attic
Comedy (rev. ed. Oxford, 1991), a work redolent of sound
scholarship, and he doesn't really provide any evidence for
distinguishing perdomai from bdeo acoustically, though he does
mention a phrase, para kophon apopardein (to fart at a deaf
person), that suggests that perdomai, at least, connoted
audibility.
Chess lovers: I haven't followed the world chess scene for a
while, but who would've thought FIDE could pick a president
worse than dear old Florencio Campomanes?
Mary Bellino
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definitely be related to VN, so perhaps anyone wishing to continue
either thread could do so by keepng VN in the loop it forms. Thanks! -
- SES.]
I hope our editors will allow just a few more words on two
threadlets that aren't particularly VN-related:
Jansy: I like your idea, but I don't think there's any
connection between the Greek verb poieo (to make or do) and
perdomai; it doesn't fit any of the regular etymological
patterns. (I suspect though that both perdomai and bdeo may
have been onomatopoeic in origin.) I checked Jeffery
Henderson's The Maculate Muse: Obscene Language in Attic
Comedy (rev. ed. Oxford, 1991), a work redolent of sound
scholarship, and he doesn't really provide any evidence for
distinguishing perdomai from bdeo acoustically, though he does
mention a phrase, para kophon apopardein (to fart at a deaf
person), that suggests that perdomai, at least, connoted
audibility.
Chess lovers: I haven't followed the world chess scene for a
while, but who would've thought FIDE could pick a president
worse than dear old Florencio Campomanes?
Mary Bellino
Search the archive: http://listserv.ucsb.edu/archives/nabokv-l.html
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